News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver Signing

(Of course, if you followed us on Twitter or were a member of the OSRHINTS list, you’d already know all of the following)

There have been several important announcements at WinHEC today. We thought we’d update you on a few of the biggies.

  1. A new MVP program has been announced for driver devs.
    The new program will include device, component, and driver devs as well as makers. NTDEV regulars who are inaugural members of the team include Don Burn, Tim Roberts, Scott Noone and me.
    Link: http:

    2) WDF Source Code will be released TOMORROW… on GitHub
    Yes, seriously. And the MSFT Symbol Server will have private symbols for WDF. We hear that the plan is to eventually take community contributions, even. How cool is this???
    Link: http:

    3) Win10 KM drivers will require MSFT signatures.
    You won’t have to pass the certification tests to get the signature, but you WILL have to get an Extended Validation Code Signing Certificate.
    Link: http:

    4) Write once, run anywhere drivers become real with Universal Drivers
    The WDK will cover ALL Platforms (desktop, mobile, IoT). You can target the Universal platform and ensure that your driver will run, unchanged, on any of these form factors and Windows versions.
    Link: http:

    We have a whole lot more to talk about in terms of what’s happening at WinHEC. But those are the biggest items.

    Feel free to discuss, either here in this thread or in a separate thread dedicated to one of these topics. If there are questions, we’ll try to fill-in the gaps where we can.

    Interesting times, friends…

    Peter
    OSR
    @OSRDrivers</http:></http:></http:></http:>

Symbols for WDF… Awesome!

This post almost makes me wish I’d flown to China.

Sent from my Windows Phone


From: xxxxx@osr.commailto:xxxxx
Sent: ?3/?18/?2015 9:21 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest Listmailto:xxxxx
Subject: [ntdev] News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver Signing

(Of course, if you followed us on Twitter or were a member of the OSRHINTS list, you’d already know all of the following)

There have been several important announcements at WinHEC today. We thought we’d update you on a few of the biggies.

1) A new MVP program has been announced for driver devs.
The new program will include device, component, and driver devs as well as makers. NTDEV regulars who are inaugural members of the team include Don Burn, Tim Roberts, Scott Noone and me.
Link: http:

2) WDF Source Code will be released TOMORROW… on GitHub
Yes, seriously. And the MSFT Symbol Server will have private symbols for WDF. We hear that the plan is to eventually take community contributions, even. How cool is this???
Link: http:

3) Win10 KM drivers will require MSFT signatures.
You won’t have to pass the certification tests to get the signature, but you WILL have to get an Extended Validation Code Signing Certificate.
Link: http:

4) Write once, run anywhere drivers become real with Universal Drivers
The WDK will cover ALL Platforms (desktop, mobile, IoT). You can target the Universal platform and ensure that your driver will run, unchanged, on any of these form factors and Windows versions.
Link: http:

We have a whole lot more to talk about in terms of what’s happening at WinHEC. But those are the biggest items.

Feel free to discuss, either here in this thread or in a separate thread dedicated to one of these topics. If there are questions, we’ll try to fill-in the gaps where we can.

Interesting times, friends…

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers


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Sorry about the double post - hit the send button on my phone too quickly.

The team pulled the switch on the WDF source release 5 minutes ago.

https://github.com/Microsoft/Windows-Driver-Frameworks

-p

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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:20 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver Signing

(Of course, if you followed us on Twitter or were a member of the OSRHINTS list, you’d already know all of the following)

There have been several important announcements at WinHEC today. We thought we’d update you on a few of the biggies.

  1. A new MVP program has been announced for driver devs.
    The new program will include device, component, and driver devs as well as makers. NTDEV regulars who are inaugural members of the team include Don Burn, Tim Roberts, Scott Noone and me.
    Link: http:

    2) WDF Source Code will be released TOMORROW… on GitHub Yes, seriously. And the MSFT Symbol Server will have private symbols for WDF. We hear that the plan is to eventually take community contributions, even. How cool is this???
    Link: http:

    3) Win10 KM drivers will require MSFT signatures.
    You won’t have to pass the certification tests to get the signature, but you WILL have to get an Extended Validation Code Signing Certificate.
    Link: http:

    4) Write once, run anywhere drivers become real with Universal Drivers The WDK will cover ALL Platforms (desktop, mobile, IoT). You can target the Universal platform and ensure that your driver will run, unchanged, on any of these form factors and Windows versions.
    Link: http:

    We have a whole lot more to talk about in terms of what’s happening at WinHEC. But those are the biggest items.

    Feel free to discuss, either here in this thread or in a separate thread dedicated to one of these topics. If there are questions, we’ll try to fill-in the gaps where we can.

    Interesting times, friends…

    Peter
    OSR
    @OSRDrivers


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Thanks Peter!

I’m kind of surprised at the lack of response to these topics here on NTDEV.

I know people are reading the articles via the links above. Nothing to say? Nobody cares? Too excited to speak? Yeah, THAT must be it :wink:

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers

I didn’t know there even was a winhec. Releasing the source for kmdf is
good, too bad this isn’t 2009. The world has changed.

Mark Roddy

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:57 PM, wrote:

> Thanks Peter!
>
> I’m kind of surprised at the lack of response to these topics here on
> NTDEV.
>
> I know people are reading the articles via the links above. Nothing to
> say? Nobody cares? Too excited to speak? Yeah, THAT must be it :wink:
>
> Peter
> OSR
> @OSRDrivers
>
>
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>3) Win10 KM drivers will *require* MSFT signatures.

Being a small ISV and DBA, that sounds very scary, especially given the
short notice. The requirement to have a Symantec company code certificate
just to start the process for an EV is disturbing.

//Daniel

Downloaded.
It’s too crazy, I didn’t ever imagine that the wdf source code will be released by MSFT.

Thanks for sharing such important news!.
Btw, OSR Peter and Scott, will you attend WinHEC in taipei?

//dlcu

Yeah, and the release date is June which makes this requirement egregious.

Mark Roddy

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:06 PM, wrote:

> 3) Win10 KM drivers will require MSFT signatures.
>>
>
> Being a small ISV and DBA, that sounds very scary, especially given the
> short notice. The requirement to have a Symantec company code certificate
> just to start the process for an EV is disturbing.
>
> //Daniel
>
>
>
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The way I understand it, those who won’t manage to obtain EV won’t be able to update their drivers on Windows 10, which means older buggy drivers will have to be included for that platform so they can at least be loaded.

//Daniel

“Mark Roddy” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Yeah, and the release date is June which makes this requirement egregious.

Mark Roddy

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:06 PM, wrote:

3) Win10 KM drivers will require MSFT signatures.

Being a small ISV and DBA, that sounds very scary, especially given the short notice. The requirement to have a Symantec company code certificate just to start the process for an EV is disturbing.

//Daniel


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On 19-Mar-2015 01:37, Mark Roddy wrote:

too bad this isn’t 2009. The world has changed.

+1

Say more about this, if you would.

While it’s quite obvious the world has changed, I’m not sure I follow your point.

(If there’s any doubt, that’s an honest question not some kind of trolling provocation)

No dates have been released yet, but I’d love to. I’ve never been to Taipei, and I’d welcome the excuse to visit.

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers

On 18-Mar-2015 23:36, Peter Wieland wrote:

  1. Write once, run anywhere drivers become real with Universal Drivers The WDK will cover ALL Platforms (desktop, mobile, IoT). You can target the Universal platform and ensure that your driver will run, unchanged, on any of these form factors and Windows versions.
    Link: http:

    Is this a “universal binary” (several binaries packed in one file), like
    on Darwin?

    – pa</http:>

I’d love another trip to Taipei, it’s been quite a while since I’ve been
(though my desire to go someplace doesn’t often weigh heavily on such
decisions :)). Have to wait for more details and see.

-scott
OSR
@OSRDrivers

wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…

Say more about this, if you would.

While it’s quite obvious the world has changed, I’m not sure I follow your
point.

(If there’s any doubt, that’s an honest question not some kind of trolling
provocation)

No dates have been released yet, but I’d love to. I’ve never been to
Taipei, and I’d welcome the excuse to visit.

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers

Has there been any discussion of a US or EU WinHEC? I didn’t see the Taipei
announcement.

Don Burn
Windows Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Scott Noone
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:21 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver
Signing

I’d love another trip to Taipei, it’s been quite a while since I’ve been
(though my desire to go someplace doesn’t often weigh heavily on such
decisions :)). Have to wait for more details and see.

-scott
OSR
@OSRDrivers

wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…

Say more about this, if you would.

While it’s quite obvious the world has changed, I’m not sure I follow your
point.

(If there’s any doubt, that’s an honest question not some kind of trolling
provocation)

No dates have been released yet, but I’d love to. I’ve never been to
Taipei, and I’d welcome the excuse to visit.

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers


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No, it is about one common kernel and subset of user mode APIs

d

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From: Pavel A.mailto:xxxxx
Sent: ?3/?19/?2015 7:10 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest Listmailto:xxxxx
Subject: Re:[ntdev] News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver Signing

On 18-Mar-2015 23:36, Peter Wieland wrote:

> 4) Write once, run anywhere drivers become real with Universal Drivers The WDK will cover ALL Platforms (desktop, mobile, IoT). You can target the Universal platform and ensure that your driver will run, unchanged, on any of these form factors and Windows versions.
> Link: http:

Is this a “universal binary” (several binaries packed in one file), like
on Darwin?

– pa


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I think the question was asking what that means on a practical level. What
sort of binary is universal?

T.

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From: Doron Holan
Sent: ‎3/‎19/‎2015 10:39 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: RE: [ntdev] News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver
Signing

No, it is about one common kernel and subset of user mode APIs

d

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From: Pavel A.
Sent: ‎3/‎19/‎2015 7:10 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] News from WinHEC: WDF Source, MVP Program, Driver
Signing

On 18-Mar-2015 23:36, Peter Wieland wrote:

> 4) Write once, run anywhere drivers become real with Universal Drivers
The WDK will cover ALL Platforms (desktop, mobile, IoT). You can target
the Universal platform and ensure that your driver will run, unchanged, on
any of these form factors and Windows versions.
> Link: http:

Is this a “universal binary” (several binaries packed in one file), like
on Darwin?

– pa


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In this system, no sort of binary is universal.

You still need to build for each processor architecture. But the driver itself will work across all platforms (desktop, mobile, Athens).

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers

Discussion, yes. Concrete plans? I haven’t seen anything.

Google says that Paul Thurott said the following back in September:

So, we have that going for us. Which is nice.

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers

One more item to note: You DO realize that flights to Taipei are almost exactly the same price as flights to, say, Brussels.

And Taipei HAS to be INFINITELY more interesting than Brussels. In Brussels, you see the Manneken Pis and you’re pretty much done.

Peter
OSR
@OSRDrivers