The NTDEV, NTFSD, WINDBG, and NTTALK Lists
Looking for peer support for developing Windows system software? OSR hosts four important lists that you should be aware of. Why do we do it? Well, we started out by benefiting from posts in the Compuserve forums years ago...we're just trying to keep that spirit alive today.
NTDEV -- Windows System Software Developers List
This list is dedicated to the development of drivers for the Windows family of operating systems. Looking for Win32 or user-mode peer support? Not here. But if you've got a design, implementation or support issue with a Windows kernel-mode driver, this is the place to be. Inhabited by newbies, seasoned veterans, and even the Microsoft developers... Take the opportunity to learn from your peers to get over that particular development hump.
NTFSD -- Windows File System Developers List
Developing file systems or file system filter drivers? You need to be intimately familiar with the topics discussed on this list. Really...you can't afford not to partake of the information that is exchanged in this list.
WINDBG -- Windows Debugger Users List
Having trouble debugging a particularly thorny issue? Do you find it impossible to make WinDbg do what you want? This is the list for your issues.
NTTALK -- Extended Discussions About System Software (particularly Windows)
Hate/Love some feature in the Windows I/O subsystem? Think Linux does it better/worse? Want to hold forth on why nobody ever will (or perhaps should) be able to write drivers in C#? Why C++ is a plague on human kind? This is the list for you. Free-flowing, rambling, sometimes even intelligent and thought provoking... that's what you'll find on NTTALK.
How To Join
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How To Manage Your List Membership
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How To Read and/or Contribute To The Lists
Anybody can read the list contents, but only list members may post. You must join each list separately. You may access the lists by any of the following methods:
- Web-Based Forum Interface - New for 2006! Read and post messages to NTDEV and NTFSD via our brand-new web-based forum interface. See Web-Based Forum Access, below.
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We really strongly encourage anyone interested in joining the lists to read the FAQ. It'll save you (and other list members) much time and annoyance. Really.
Finally! Web-Based Forum Access To The Lists
NNTP is soooo old and dreary. Now you can participate in OSR's NTDEV and NTFSD lists from the web, using a fully featured forum-style interface. You can use this interface exclusively, or you can combine it with email, RSS, or the old NNTP access.
Anyone can read the list (note that email addresses contained in postings are removed), but you must be a list member to post replies or new questions.
Click here to enter the NTDEV Forum
Click here to enter the NTFSD Forum
Click here to enter the NTTALK Forum
Click here to enter the WINDBG Forum
How To Search The Lists
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Common List Problems, Questions, and Issues
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